Comments on: When Pain Doesn't Get You Money http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/ Innovation, Creativity, Entrepreneurship, Personal Development Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:21:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jim Vickers http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9935 Jim Vickers Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:04:00 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9935 Jonathan, How did we get to the place where these kinds of advertising appeals work rather than repulse? It's this kind of greedy attitude underlying our skyrocketing health costs today. And sorry to say, it's not just the law firms trying to cash in at someone else's expense. It's the public, the insurance companies, the hospitals, the docters and just about everyone involved. Jonathan,
How did we get to the place where these kinds of advertising appeals work rather than repulse? It’s this kind of greedy attitude underlying our skyrocketing health costs today. And sorry to say, it’s not just the law firms trying to cash in at someone else’s expense. It’s the public, the insurance companies, the hospitals, the docters and just about everyone involved.

]]> By: Doug Sandquist http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9939 Doug Sandquist Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:29:52 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9939 Interesting post Jonathan.... and I agree, this is one of the issues that I wish could be entered into the current Health Care debate. Where is personal responsibility in terms of our health. Health care should be readily available to all, but the kicker is that if there were no cigarettes, Alcohol, or drugs, the hospitals would be fairly boring places... .-= Doug Sandquist´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DougSandquist/~3/McM8cd8vE_Q/" rel="nofollow">Leadership and Self-Deception - a Book Worth Reading</a> =-. Interesting post Jonathan…. and I agree, this is one of the issues that I wish could be entered into the current Health Care debate. Where is personal responsibility in terms of our health. Health care should be readily available to all, but the kicker is that if there were no cigarettes, Alcohol, or drugs, the hospitals would be fairly boring places…
.-= Doug Sandquist´s last blog ..Leadership and Self-Deception – a Book Worth Reading =-.

]]> By: Terry Heath http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9940 Terry Heath Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:30:44 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9940 I know someone who has been trying to sue the city because she fell on the road. She was directing traffic, which she had no business doing in the first place, and wasn't paying attention when she slipped in some gravel. Let's see . . . so the argument is, "I fell, so you have to pay me." That logic is amazing to me. .-= Terry Heath´s last blog ..<a href="http://feeds.terryheath.com/~/894529/9l45d/terryheath~The-Seven-Habits-of-Highly-Effective-People-%C3%A0-la-Gilbert-and-Sullivan" rel="nofollow">“The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People” à la Gilbert and Sullivan</a> =-. I know someone who has been trying to sue the city because she fell on the road. She was directing traffic, which she had no business doing in the first place, and wasn’t paying attention when she slipped in some gravel. Let’s see . . . so the argument is, “I fell, so you have to pay me.” That logic is amazing to me.
.-= Terry Heath´s last blog ..“The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People” à la Gilbert and Sullivan =-.

]]> By: Tanya Monteiro http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9941 Tanya Monteiro Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:02:52 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9941 Couldn't agree with you more. I've lived in 6 countries, was Born in South Africa and spent 6 years in London before moving to NYC. I worked on Wall Street, 2 blocks from my apartment, each day I would have to pass this office with a TV screen in the window advertising "Had an accident, We can help". Never have I seen that type of help advertised in such a blatant way, It still blows me away! Yay for people like you! Thank you .-= Tanya Monteiro´s last blog ..<a href="http://iamthrivingnow.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/inspired-by-ken-robinson/" rel="nofollow">Inspired by Ken Robinson</a> =-. Couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve lived in 6 countries, was Born in South Africa and spent 6 years in London before moving to NYC. I worked on Wall Street, 2 blocks from my apartment, each day I would have to pass this office with a TV screen in the window advertising “Had an accident, We can help”. Never have I seen that type of help advertised in such a blatant way, It still blows me away!
Yay for people like you! Thank you
.-= Tanya Monteiro´s last blog ..Inspired by Ken Robinson =-.

]]> By: Jonathan Fields http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9942 Jonathan Fields Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:28:00 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9942 Great comments as always, gang. It's so interesting to me that you guys are writing in from all over the world. Helps provide better context for how self interest unfolds across different countries and cultures. And, hey, i'm realistic to know that self-interest is just a part of life. It's just the way that people weave self interest with a sense of justice or fairness and whatever local business or legal mechanisms are available that sometimes bugs me, Plus, as a number of you have shared, there are so many people looking to step away from responsibility for their own actions and cast blame, then make innocent people/entities pay. It's less about whether you believe insurance companies are the Dark Side, it's about us stepping up and saying, "just because you CAN game the system, doesn't mean you SHOULD." Great comments as always, gang. It’s so interesting to me that you guys are writing in from all over the world. Helps provide better context for how self interest unfolds across different countries and cultures.

And, hey, i’m realistic to know that self-interest is just a part of life. It’s just the way that people weave self interest with a sense of justice or fairness and whatever local business or legal mechanisms are available that sometimes bugs me,

Plus, as a number of you have shared, there are so many people looking to step away from responsibility for their own actions and cast blame, then make innocent people/entities pay. It’s less about whether you believe insurance companies are the Dark Side, it’s about us stepping up and saying, “just because you CAN game the system, doesn’t mean you SHOULD.”

]]> By: Celes | The Personal Excellence Blog http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9931 Celes | The Personal Excellence Blog Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:18:10 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9931 Jonathan, I fully agree with you. I've to point out that shifting of personal responsibility happens everywhere where people have their locus of control shifted on the outside. In different societies, these people express that through different ways. So in Singapore where I live, such people will express that through complaining and blaming on others (it's associated as part of the natural culture) , while in America it seems people proactively leverage on the legal system. I've heard about court cases of people suing tobacco companies for causing lung cancer or suing McDonald's for making them fat, and actually winning the cases - which thoroughly amazed me. .-= Celes | The Personal Excellence Blog´s last blog ..<a href="http://celestinechua.com/blog/2009/08/update-21-day-exercise-trial-latest-interviews-guest-posts/" rel="nofollow">Update: 21-Day Exercise Trial, Latest Interviews, Guest Posts</a> =-. Jonathan, I fully agree with you. I’ve to point out that shifting of personal responsibility happens everywhere where people have their locus of control shifted on the outside. In different societies, these people express that through different ways. So in Singapore where I live, such people will express that through complaining and blaming on others (it’s associated as part of the natural culture) , while in America it seems people proactively leverage on the legal system. I’ve heard about court cases of people suing tobacco companies for causing lung cancer or suing McDonald’s for making them fat, and actually winning the cases – which thoroughly amazed me.
.-= Celes | The Personal Excellence Blog´s last blog ..Update: 21-Day Exercise Trial, Latest Interviews, Guest Posts =-.

]]> By: Iyabo Asani, The Authentic Change Coach http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9934 Iyabo Asani, The Authentic Change Coach Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:47:40 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9934 Jonathan, this is a timely post. I also practiced law like you did. I did it for 20 years and I just could not align myself any longer with the constant "risk assessment" and for many of the reasons you gave in this post. We lawyers are the reason for this. Our profession is undergoing a change and those that are still in the profession are finding creative ways to cope. Iyabo Asani .-= Iyabo Asani, The Authentic Change Coach´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AuthenticChangeCoach/~3/0L_62MiKliU/" rel="nofollow">Experience Heart-Swell</a> =-. Jonathan, this is a timely post.

I also practiced law like you did. I did it for 20 years and I just could not align myself any longer with the constant “risk assessment” and for many of the reasons you gave in this post.

We lawyers are the reason for this. Our profession is undergoing a change and those that are still in the profession are finding creative ways to cope.

Iyabo Asani
.-= Iyabo Asani, The Authentic Change Coach´s last blog ..Experience Heart-Swell =-.

]]> By: andrei http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9933 andrei Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:06:15 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9933 I agree with the part of responsability.....BUT are you really serios when you say that insurance companies loose money???? At least that is what you sugest. Did you forget that insurance business is most profitable and the BIGEST SCAM EVER??!?! I agree with the part of responsability…..BUT are you really serios when you say that insurance companies loose money???? At least that is what you sugest. Did you forget that insurance business is most profitable and the BIGEST SCAM EVER??!?!

]]> By: John http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9932 John Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:41:54 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9932 I honestly think people should be more conditioned to the idea that they should take responsibility for their own actions. Some people in society just want easy money for pain. As a result, we pay more for these blunders and lives are crushed because of it. Thanks for bringing this out in the open, Jon. .-= John´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Hilife2b/~3/JQ-FWginfJI/problem-with-instant-gratification" rel="nofollow">Do You Recognize the Problem With Instant Gratification?</a> =-. I honestly think people should be more conditioned to the idea that they should take responsibility for their own actions. Some people in society just want easy money for pain. As a result, we pay more for these blunders and lives are crushed because of it. Thanks for bringing this out in the open, Jon.
.-= John´s last blog ..Do You Recognize the Problem With Instant Gratification? =-.

]]> By: jurgen wolff http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/when-pain-doesnt-get-you-money/#comment-9936 jurgen wolff Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:07:57 +0000 http://www.careerrenegade.com/?p=1589#comment-9936 Good point. I know of one case personally where an off-duty police officer decided to chase a suspect through a back yard. The tenants had put out an old sofa and the officer fell over it in the dark and (he says) sustained a back injury. Who was sued? Not the suspect, not the tenants, but the landlord, who wasn't even aware that the tenants had put the sofa out. The police officer got $600,000. The insurance company doctors said his back was one of the healthiest they'd ever seen, but back injuries can't be disproved. Good point. I know of one case personally where an off-duty police officer decided to chase a suspect through a back yard. The tenants had put out an old sofa and the officer fell over it in the dark and (he says) sustained a back injury. Who was sued? Not the suspect, not the tenants, but the landlord, who wasn’t even aware that the tenants had put the sofa out. The police officer got $600,000. The insurance company doctors said his back was one of the healthiest they’d ever seen, but back injuries can’t be disproved.

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