Comments on: Model This! http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/ Entrepreneurship, marketing, personal devlelopment Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:38:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Amy Hale, Academic Mercenary http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7534 Amy Hale, Academic Mercenary Thu, 21 May 2009 01:19:21 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7534 Interesting observations on modeling. I think that if you look at it as a general principle, rather than a specific procedure, than it can be more useful. I have looked at a number of people who have careers I admire, and who have had accomplishments that I might like to replicate in my own life, but what works for one may not work for everyone. The path and the end result are not one and the same. For me, the "model" serves as the inspiration. Sometimes just knowing they are there gives me "permission" to take that crucial first step. Interesting observations on modeling. I think that if you look at it as a general principle, rather than a specific procedure, than it can be more useful. I have looked at a number of people who have careers I admire, and who have had accomplishments that I might like to replicate in my own life, but what works for one may not work for everyone. The path and the end result are not one and the same. For me, the “model” serves as the inspiration. Sometimes just knowing they are there gives me “permission” to take that crucial first step.

]]> By: BigDae » Evaluative Essay http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7485 BigDae » Evaluative Essay Mon, 18 May 2009 02:17:01 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7485 [...] http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/ [...] [...] http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/ [...]

]]> By: sms lån http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7440 sms lån Mon, 11 May 2009 12:33:54 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7440 I often encounter modeling in MLM presentations and like most of you, I believe that the success of following a certain model is not guaranteed because each one of us have unique situations and w differ in perceiving things. Everybody will be successful by now if modeling really works... I often encounter modeling in MLM presentations and like most of you, I believe that the success of following a certain model is not guaranteed because each one of us have unique situations and w differ in perceiving things. Everybody will be successful by now if modeling really works…

]]> By: Amber http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7438 Amber Mon, 11 May 2009 10:35:15 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7438 Having mentors is one thing, but modeling yourself after someone is downright dangerous. We must dare to be ourselves. To find what makes us unique and then harness it into business and life. People can tell when you are not being yourself. The ego or imitation of another's ego is highly visible. It's by tapping into who you are that you find the most power. Don't miss the chance to know who you really are. Maybe we haven't done enough internal digging :) Having mentors is one thing, but modeling yourself after someone is downright dangerous. We must dare to be ourselves. To find what makes us unique and then harness it into business and life. People can tell when you are not being yourself. The ego or imitation of another’s ego is highly visible. It’s by tapping into who you are that you find the most power. Don’t miss the chance to know who you really are. Maybe we haven’t done enough internal digging :)

]]> By: Justin, Airsoft Rifles http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7434 Justin, Airsoft Rifles Sun, 10 May 2009 14:28:33 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7434 When it comes to modeling, the only thing you can really do is model their characteristics, not the specific plans, due to the aforementioned external factors. The only thing you can do is try to replicate the internal factors, and adapt them to your unique situation. When it comes to modeling, the only thing you can really do is model their characteristics, not the specific plans, due to the aforementioned external factors. The only thing you can do is try to replicate the internal factors, and adapt them to your unique situation.

]]> By: Barbaric Links: Thanks Mom! Edition | The Corporate Barbarian Blog http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7429 Barbaric Links: Thanks Mom! Edition | The Corporate Barbarian Blog Sun, 10 May 2009 01:37:06 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7429 [...] Jonathan at Awake at the Wheel talks about the pros and cons of “modeling” yourself after successful people; [...] [...] Jonathan at Awake at the Wheel talks about the pros and cons of “modeling” yourself after successful people; [...]

]]> By: Flora Morris Brown http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7415 Flora Morris Brown Wed, 06 May 2009 19:06:19 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7415 Emulating the best traits and success strategies of others is admirable, but modeling another is futile. No matter how hard you try to internalize someone else's system in an effort to get the same results, you'll never exactly succeed. The problem is that whatever we take in becomes part of us, our beliefs, our perceptions, all in interaction with our circumstances. The authentic self has to make adjustments to make the imported system work. Thus, even though the results may appear to casual onlookers to be the same as the original model, they never really are. Emulating the best traits and success strategies of others is admirable, but modeling another is futile. No matter how hard you try to internalize someone else’s system in an effort to get the same results, you’ll never exactly succeed.

The problem is that whatever we take in becomes part of us, our beliefs, our perceptions, all in interaction with our circumstances. The authentic self has to make adjustments to make the imported system work. Thus, even though the results may appear to casual onlookers to be the same as the original model, they never really are.

]]> By: Michael Martine - Remarkablogger http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7414 Michael Martine - Remarkablogger Wed, 06 May 2009 18:31:42 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7414 Ah, well, geez, I didn't understand it like I thought I did. Okay, learned something new today... :) Ah, well, geez, I didn’t understand it like I thought I did. Okay, learned something new today… :)

]]> By: Jonathan Fields http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7412 Jonathan Fields Wed, 06 May 2009 17:16:17 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7412 Great comments, as always, gang! The confusion comes when people confuse the term "modeling" with "studying, learning, adapting and applying "relevant" bits of knowledge, strategies and actions. Modeling is literally reverse-engineering the internal processes of a single person, then effectively "installing" this precise system in another person with the expectation that the new person will then get the same results attained by the person who was modeled. Modeling is an exceptionally rigorous and exacting process that requires substantial amounts of observation, data and skill. I know people who've been practicing it for decades and they're still just getting good at it. That's very different from studying the experiences, solutions and outcomes of a "broad spectrum" of individuals who've succeeded, exploring and adopting the approaches and solutions "that work for you" and uncovering "common" strategies. Very, very different. The case studies in Career Renegade are examples of the latter, not the former. That's their utility. They don't provide anywhere near enough information to create or install a legitimate model for anyone studied. Nor was that their purpose. But, they also serve a second critical purpose. They serve as proof that other people with "similar" traits, backgrounds, knowledge and skill were able to do what the book's reader would like to do. And, that allows for the cultivation of a level of belief in success that is critical in inspiring action. Kapish? Great comments, as always, gang!

The confusion comes when people confuse the term “modeling” with “studying, learning, adapting and applying “relevant” bits of knowledge, strategies and actions.

Modeling is literally reverse-engineering the internal processes of a single person, then effectively “installing” this precise system in another person with the expectation that the new person will then get the same results attained by the person who was modeled.

Modeling is an exceptionally rigorous and exacting process that requires substantial amounts of observation, data and skill. I know people who’ve been practicing it for decades and they’re still just getting good at it.

That’s very different from studying the experiences, solutions and outcomes of a “broad spectrum” of individuals who’ve succeeded, exploring and adopting the approaches and solutions “that work for you” and uncovering “common” strategies. Very, very different.

The case studies in Career Renegade are examples of the latter, not the former. That’s their utility. They don’t provide anywhere near enough information to create or install a legitimate model for anyone studied. Nor was that their purpose.

But, they also serve a second critical purpose. They serve as proof that other people with “similar” traits, backgrounds, knowledge and skill were able to do what the book’s reader would like to do. And, that allows for the cultivation of a level of belief in success that is critical in inspiring action.

Kapish?

]]> By: Michael Martine - Remarkablogger http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/model-this/#comment-7411 Michael Martine - Remarkablogger Wed, 06 May 2009 17:02:01 +0000 http://www.jonathanfields.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-7411 There's modeling and then there's imitating. Unless you know a little bit about NLP, you don't know the distinction. People often imitate, not model. They're like "Cargo Cults" in that way. Some people make it easy to model them by actually teaching you how and providing the tools to do it. Brian Clark comes to mind for this, as well as Jonathan's work in Career Renegade. There’s modeling and then there’s imitating. Unless you know a little bit about NLP, you don’t know the distinction.

People often imitate, not model. They’re like “Cargo Cults” in that way.

Some people make it easy to model them by actually teaching you how and providing the tools to do it. Brian Clark comes to mind for this, as well as Jonathan’s work in Career Renegade.

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